Can this ACTUALLY damage your data?

Do you actually need to "safely eject" your USB before removing it, or can you just yank it out?

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55 Comments

ZaInT

Just make sure it’s not an external hard drive, those are often set to “best performance” and not “quick removal”

    Brandon Wyffels

    Made this mistake recently

    Mr. Moʀɖɛռ

    I’m so paranoid with mechanical disks that I go into Window’s Disk Management and offline the disk before powering down and removing.

    X-Ray_Apha_Delta-9

    ​@Brandon Wyffels how did it go?

    Andybananas

    for me it started corrupting files when i actually did eject it

    First Name Last Name

    You mean any device that shows up with a garbage can right?

HolyClasher

They printed the grade on it 😂

Lord Cinder

That slap was personal 😂

    Boss Snurp

    That’s what she said

    Imtrash bmx

    My name is Riley and I eject mine still this whole video is personal😂

    Agangu

    Very

    Ralph Yap

    that was not a slap, that was a smack. in the head. and it was beautiful.

Frenzzy

Unfortunately they were late because he had to prove to his friend that his work ethic is superior

contiPlays

don’t care, still, my OCD will not allow it.

    Alkenzik

    Fair enough.

    Gaming For Pizza

    Your OCD is correct, unlike this video.

HeyLookImGerman

Instructions unclear: I pulled out my ssd while windows was installing.

    DraxoronXZtgs

    Ah sh*t, here we go again.😂

    mrfive

    Windows 13 disables any writing to your SSD so no worries, you’re cool to continue your installation over Gluetooth.

    30p87

    Another SSD saved from a horrible fate

    AliShuktu

    Does it work with LSD tho?

    uwot Games

    oh no now you gotta take 5min extra to install windows

Chris Kellett

Sorry guys, death by yank of victory is still a thing. I’m regularly presented with corrupted memory sticks by tearful students who lose work doing this. Just eject it properly.

    WTFBOOMDOOM

    Is that “My dog ate my homework” of modern times? 😅

    Calvin Mills

    ​@WTFBOOMDOOM I have definitely yanked a drive while it’s copying to *intentionally* corrupt the file. Often gets you a few day extension, or as long as it takes the prof to tell you the file is corrupt, plus anytime time they give you to resubmit.

    It’s not honest work, but sometimes times are desperate.

    Christian Pérez

    Since I’m a student myself I would totally make it go corrupt and lie about it lmao

    Buttstuff

    Who’s gonna tell him?

    Er Guan

    Maybe MacOS. Definitely not in Windows anymore

AutumnOnFire

I’ve fubared enough 2TB Seagate Portable Drives to know to eject properly when you can

    Luke_MoonWalker

    A portable “hard disk drive” is different than a USB drive. The Seagate you mentions has moving parts, therefore disconnecting from Windows will ensure all data is physically written to the platters before you disconnect. Also, caching like he said in the clip. USB drives are solid state memory, so unless you are moving data, they can be yanked with no repercussion. Same would be true if you had a 2TB external SSD. HDD is a different circumstance.

    Dwi Randy Pradhika

    ​@Luke_MoonWalker The HDD will safely shut itself down when you eject it, you can actually hear the drive stop spinning.

    But SSDs are not immune to yanking, some data could still be in the volatile DRAM cache and not be fully written to the NAND flash.

    Luke_MoonWalker

    @Dwi Randy Pradhika you’re right.

    Siana Gearz

    ​@Dwi Randy Pradhika hypothetically there should be enough onboard capacitance to write back DRAM when power is lost.

    Alternatively many drives don’t even have DRAM.

    But I don’t believe “everything written” is a strict guarantee, many products will choose to eschew it and only write on sync. You might as well get a consistent snapshot as it corresponds to a somewhat earlier moment in time. Not too long but a little behind. This is a very necessary guarantee, else the journal file system will be broken.

    Fun fact, some very old Unix admins have a habit of spamming sync before turning off PC power. This is how you used to park hard disk back in the day. There was no shutdown procedure yet.

not an artist

As good as this sounds, I won’t risk it ever

    Христо Попов

    Doesnt work 100%. Better safe than sorry.

Mr1988MONSTER

Casually rips a rare 500 dollar thumb drive out 😂

SuperDave456

That A+ hurts.
No paper or project in school Averros got a A+ regardless of effort.
Damn, I’m an old man… maybe I need to talk to someone about this.

That Guy

Note on Linux, usually caching is used much more aggressively, while this speeds up regular drive usage, it also means a bunch of data remains unsaved and in RAM often, ejecting will ensure it is properly written “flushed” or “synced” to the drive.
Also always eject mechanical hard drives

    dadudeme

    That is why the file explorers on Linux have a safely remove button for external drives.

    Also if you exit all programs and run sync from a tty, once it finishes all the data is flushed

    YJK

    I’ve actually seen few files disappearing from the drive after yanking out USB, so I always do umount(or eject from file explorer) before unplugging the drive.

Nightcat

“Just yank it” -LTT 2023

    weyleey

    you gotta apologise to her or else you gonna have to sleep on the couch

    Arroo21

    Famous last words

John A.

I’m still gonna eject before taking it out. My work is just too important to risk it

    Aaronj3245

    It’s doesn’t matter

Kenn

Even Windows Vista (2008) has this Feature. Just because this feature exists doesn’t mean it works all the time.

    Machina

    It definitely does lol. This not an ambiguous feature, it only doesn’t work if you Intentionally disable it, or you pull the drive mid transfer. This isn’t the kind of code that randomly decides to do something different because reasons.

    martin0499

    ​@Machina Windows does what it wants all the time, better not to risk it, I’d rather look like a grandpa then lose my data

    2Far

    ​@martin0499 as the old saying goes, “Better safe than sorry”

Brian

I’ve killed flash drives doing this. Do not just yank it out of the computer, safely eject it first.

Marc-André Servant

Modern file systems store both regular metadata and a journal of operations. The system can use the journal to fix errors caused by interrupted operations. If you were in the process of copying file C, you’ve probably lost that file, but the system can guarantee you haven’t corrupted file A or file B.

    Gellis12

    NTFS does not support block journalling though. At best, it supports metadata journalling; but that isn’t nearly as useful and still allows tons of issues to slip through the cracks. That’s part of why running `sfc /scannow` is the first step to troubleshooting any weird windows issues; it replaces any important system files that got damaged through filesystem corruption that went unnoticed at the time.
    Instead of having a user manually run a repair tool like that whenever stuff inevitably breaks, every other OS takes the approach of just having a better filesystem that doesn’t lead to random corruption issues like NTFS allows for.

Not once but twice

PLEASE do not yank it out in the University library

    Carl Siemens

    Only yank it in the bathroom. That’s where everyone else does it.

Portgas Ace

Gamers also have this feature, it’s called “auto-save.” But, they still do a manual save just in case. Still, won’t risk it tho.

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